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  Fear!

  by LittleToe in

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  false evidence appearing real

  "fear only fear itself", is a maxim that i regularly used to use, until the habit became ingrained.. it was truly liberating.

  i offer it only because it personally helped me.

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  LT

  Many associate the Bible with the fears of their past - how would you counter that?

  That's what cults do, they pervert the scripture. You know the Jesus of the bible is not the Jesus of the Watchtower.

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  Fear!

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  false evidence appearing real

  "fear only fear itself", is a maxim that i regularly used to use, until the habit became ingrained.. it was truly liberating.

  i offer it only because it personally helped me.

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  LT

  I had such an experience myself, and there are many times it has sustained me when "faith in a book" has not. As a Christian the book isn't the focus of our faith as the one whom is "the Word", surely?

  You are not having a relationship with Shelby's "mish mashed potatoes" are you?

  I have a relationship with Jesus (the God of the Book) the Word.

  Have you ever heard of Sola scriptura?

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  Fear!

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  false evidence appearing real

  "fear only fear itself", is a maxim that i regularly used to use, until the habit became ingrained.. it was truly liberating.

  i offer it only because it personally helped me.

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  LT

  So would you put that above a personal relationship?

  Without the scriptures, what Jesus are you going to have a relationship with, the Jesus of the Mormons?

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  Fear!

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  false evidence appearing real

  "fear only fear itself", is a maxim that i regularly used to use, until the habit became ingrained.. it was truly liberating.

  i offer it only because it personally helped me.

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  frankie

  Becoming a monk did nothing to help Luthers fear, in fact it made it worse. Justification by the Catholic religion, or any other religion (including the Watchtower) can not help. It is only by faith in the work of Christ on the cross. It isn't in the org. of Christ.

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  Fear!

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  false evidence appearing real

  "fear only fear itself", is a maxim that i regularly used to use, until the habit became ingrained.. it was truly liberating.

  i offer it only because it personally helped me.

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  Deputy Dog

  Well frankie, maybe you should watch the movie to see how he deals with that fear. Because the next scene is about how he deals with his irrational fear of God. He learns that God is not angry with him, he is angry with God.

  Could this be your case as well?

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  Fear!

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  false evidence appearing real

  "fear only fear itself", is a maxim that i regularly used to use, until the habit became ingrained.. it was truly liberating.

  i offer it only because it personally helped me.

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  LT

  I wonder, if, the amount we percieve that we are loved, could have a greater effect?

  Doesn't this then take things into the realm of the subjective and potentially irrational?

  It sure can. That's why it's so important to base your faith on scripture rather than feeling.

  In the case of fear of physical reprisals from parents (in the example that Xena suggested), we might remain in that hold-state without truly "knowing" anything.

  Sure!

  I would posit that perhaps fear of God, especially (but not exclusively) in connection with the schoolmaster of "the law", can lead us to God. However, once we have embraced that "love", fear subsides being replaced with familial affection.

  Agreed. In connection with that, did you see the Luther movie yet? There is a great seen where Luther gets caught in a thunder storm and fears God is shooting lightning bolts at him. This scares him into becoming a monk.

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  Somebody thinks I should introduce myself

  by bethany4you in

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  i have never been a jehovahs witness (i can't even spell it half the time).

  i am a practicing wiccan and have been for all of my life.

  i do not discuss my beliefs openly because of preconceived ideas that most people have.

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  Beth

  I have never been a Wiccan. Why would I want to become one?

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  Bible Says: The Psychology of Christian Fundamentalism

  by CPiolo in

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  a friend who is familiar with my situation ?

  non jw married to a true-believing dub ?

  passed on an interesting article about the psychology of christian fundamentalism.

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  CPiolo

  I've never meant a JW that believes the Bible. They only believe in the org and what the org says about the bible.

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  Fear!

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  false evidence appearing real

  "fear only fear itself", is a maxim that i regularly used to use, until the habit became ingrained.. it was truly liberating.

  i offer it only because it personally helped me.

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  LT

  LOL

  DDog:Ah, sorry, I see that we DID get the long version

  Give me a break! I'm typing as fast as I can.

  Would you like to posit some examples?

  That list is probably different for everyone.

  Do you think the level to which we love, in this context, has an effect on the amount we fear?

  I wonder, if, the amount we percieve that we are loved, could have a greater effect?

  Theological or practical it doesn't matter.

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  Fear!

  by LittleToe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  false evidence appearing real

  "fear only fear itself", is a maxim that i regularly used to use, until the habit became ingrained.. it was truly liberating.

  i offer it only because it personally helped me.

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  LT

  What came first, fear or wisdom?

  I don't think I can answer that, except to say, sometimes it is very wise to fear.

  It looks like Xena just made my piont

  So what we are mainly talking about here is the difference between irrational and rational fear?

  But to answer your question

  Whilst "love" was actually there all along, what effect does "perfecting love" have on the manner in which we fear?

  it doesn't matter either way, as the verse says "perfect love casts out fear"

  D Dog